2024-2026 Custom Supplemental Battery
Project Overview
This project entails the creation of a custom 24v nickel metal hydride battery pack for the Power Distribution Enclosure. The pack will be 20 cells spot welded in series and will have active charge and discharge protection. The supp-mon PCB will monitor voltage, current, and temperature. This supplemental battery is integral to the ignition sequence.
Project Owners: @Leo Block , @Jingyuan Wang (Abel)
Resources:
Current OTS Supp. → https://power.tenergy.com/at-tenergy-24v-4200mah-nimh-rechargeable-battery-pack-20s1p-100-8wh-30a-rate-standard-mini-tamiya-connector/
Electrical Counterpart
Power Systems -> LV Subsystem.
OBBB Project → Supplemental Monitoring Board Subproject
Electrical POCs:
@Frank Li - Electrical Lead
@Abigail Parsons - Supp. Mon. Board Project Owner
@Ravi Shah - Power Systems Lead
@Surabhi Karighattam - LV Sublead
Project Requirements
20 NiMH Cells
24v nominal
Size constraint → similar to current OTS supplemental battery
Thermistors
Subtasks
Cell Selection
Connector and Harness Selection -> Contact Electrical
Design and Packaging
Bus Bar Design
Cell Holder Design
Cell Protection
Harness
PDE Integration Design
Manufacture
Test
Documentation
Cell Selection:
Cell Name | Nominal Voltage | Capacity (mAh) | Diameter (mm) | Height (mm) | Weight (g) | Price ($) | Link |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Tenergy 10505 Sub-C 4200mAh Flat Top | 1.2 V | 4200 | 23.11 | 42.93 | 63.5 | 6.75 | |
BatterySpace SC NiMH 4200mAh | 1.2 V | 4200 | 23 | 43 | 66 | 6.55 | |
EP-4200SC High Output Sub-C | 1.2 V | 4200 | 22.61 | 44.45 | 60.95 | 6.50 |
Selected Cell: Tenergy 10505 Sub-C 4200mAh Flat Top
Reasoning: To mimic the Tenergy sup as closely as possible so it can be swapped at a moment’s notice.
Connector and Harness Selection:
xt30 (Already selected)
Revision: two are needed because 2nd (parallel) set may be needed for voltage sensing
Design and Packaging
Bus Bar Design R1 (Cell formatting is same, busbars & terminals have changed since then)
- *Note: Sheet metal in SolidWorks to curve bus bar
- Bus Bar Layout/Cell Holder Design - Side View
*Material: Use nickel
- *Realized that because we are only connecting, at max, two cells, there’s no need for the spilt connector faces, so drew up 3 designs.
Chosen Design: Upper Right
Reasoning: Because w/ right degree bends, any misgivings in the manufacturing process will lead the cell to put stress on the entire push bar when inserted, instead of a angled bend, like how it would be w/ the spilt connector face.
- *Realized that for simplicity reasons, a straight rectangular bus bar is the most optimal solution.
- ~2x the chart below (link)
- by a Matador(aura) from a forum (link)
R[wire] = ρ[Ni] * (L/A) = (6.99E−8 Ω/m) * ((.03711 m)/(2.0E−6 m^2)) = 0.0012969945 Ω
P = R[wire] * I^2 = (1.2969945E-3 Ω) * (15 A)^2 = 0.291823763 W
Power loss @ 15 A & [0.15mm * 10mm * 37.11mm] = ~0.389 W
Power loss @ 15 A & [0.15 mm * 12mm * 37.11 mm] = ~0.324 W
Power loss @ 15 A & [0.2mm * 10mm * 37.11mm] (link) = ~0.292 W
Power loss @ 15 A & [0.2mm * 12mm * 37.11mm] (link) = ~0.243 W
Dimensions for bus bar strips: 0.2mm x 12mm (link)
Cell Holder Design
Optimal cell layout: something like 4*5 rectangle of triangular circular layout
Make sure + and - end up on the same side for the connector
~100mm x ~150mm
Stuff to fit into it (ov uv oc ot protection):
12A Fuse (between + and output, easily accessible)
*Note: do the fuse mount
2 thermistors (flex pcb temp sensors)
Bus bar guides (so placement is easy and reduces shorting)
Panel mount connectors to case?
Cell Protection
*Note: Aside from temp. sensing, also will add voltage & current monitoring if implementing active charging from the main battery.
*Note: Thermistors, connect to the SubMon PCB in OBBB
Thermistor Selection:
NTC (Negative Temperature Coefficient Thermistor) vs. RTD (Resistance Temperature Detector) vs. PTC (Positive Temperature Coefficient Thermistor)
*Note: We need probe thermistors to attach to the exterior of the cells
| PTC | NTC | RTD |
|---|---|---|---|
Cost (Least->Most) | Med | Low | High |
Temp. Range | -55°C to 150°C | -55°C to 200°C | -200°C to 850°C |
Accuracy | Good | Great | Best |
Response Time | Great | Best | Good |
*Reasoning: Cheapest, Smallest, Very accurate, and Quickest.
*Ideal Values: R25 = ~10 kΩ | β-Val = ~3400 K to 3950 K | Accuracy = ~±1% to ±3%
*Reasoning: Use old main batt thermistors.
Cut the wires to fit in PDE.
Fuse PCB
*Note: Two xt30 connectors, pos. + gnd.
Fuse: 12A automotive blade fuse
*Note: 2x2 for input 1 1x4 for output (Thermistors) --Parthiv
Parthiv mount link
*Note: Needa get accurate xt30 and nanofit connector schematics and footprints
9/30 Internal Review Notes
Rename the assembly (spaces lol) Done
Bigger hole 2.5 mm keep out space (?), 4.5mm diameter, 5.5mm deep Done
Add handles to frame Done
Add connection from top frame to bottom Done
Add attachment point to frame from housing Done
Make the frame + cells a single assembly (that’s the supp)
Allocate space for thermisters and fuses Done
DOUBLE thermistor Done
.5 tolerance between frame and case Done
Assembly distance mate Done
PDE mount Done
two vert (y axis) on length side
two hori (z axis) on top length side
Assign material properties
Assign colors make it look pretty Done?
File edges of bus bar guided
bad lame n not cool
I’m NOT doing ts vro 💔
I think it’ll make cutting the bus bars way harder
maybe we should, cause it’ll look pretty
10/7/25 Meeting Notes
Mech
Add rails to the frame to slide into housing Done
Add cell to DL Done
Hide planes on CAD Done
Flip cell models in assembly Done (for cathode and anode)
Use linear pattern and instances
Suppress text on frame (suppress for processing time of 000) Done (deleted bc unnecessary for now)
Elec
Update footprint on PCB/check 3d viewer is good Done
Change up schematics to simplify Done
Screw connectors set to one pin Done
Change up screw connector CAD to get rid of screw Done
Nanofit connectors set to general connector schematic Done
Use Github/Sharepoint to get good footprints Done
Change planes to be solid (get rid of cross deal) Done
Change up thermistor connector directions to match frame (opposite sides) Done
Change up bus bar mounts to opposite sides Done
Get rid of unneeded traces Done
Trace size: at least 0.2 mm Done
Make PCB overall smaller Done
Round corners of PCB Done
Make mounting holes Done
*Note:Spot weld bus bar to cell terminals then fold over bus bar
Adds strain relief and allows us to solder to PCB (can’t solder to cells directly)
Change + - to .5 mm Done
⭐To do: Case slides into PDE, sliding mechanism, c-shaped rails on the side of PDE
Current Dimensions!!!
Frame Width | ~97.68mm |
Frame Length | ~147.72mm |
Frame Height | ~51mm |
Fuse PCB Height | < 15mm (considering highest components) |
Frame w/o Screw Mount | 44mm |
Floor Thickness | 3.5mm |
Current Housing Height (Eqn) | 65mm > 44mm + 15mm + 3.5mm |
Lid Thickness | 3.5mm |
10/14/25 Meeting Notes
Get rid of Cell Done
Delete the current one, delete local copy, reference the one from design library Done
Move PCB to Power systems folder in BILD Done
Add space to naming of Bus Bar in BILD Done
Fix mates in assembly (mounting holes) Done
Lower casing height (so lid goes through pcb) Done
Make frame attachment screw hole 3.2mm
Finish rails
Make the the c rails (new part) Done
Change bus bars to local pattern Done
PCB
send for review Done
10/21/2025 Meeting Notes ✨
Make screw hole 3.2mm
Housing to Frame Done
Lid to Housing Done
Rail to Housing Done
DCDC Support
make 3.5mm thick Done
make taller/shorter Done
make tolerance tighter Done
0.2mm
make triangle brace longer Done
Lid Lip for DCDC Support Done
make thinner
5mm
Housing
Make rails longer Done
Make cool pattern to cut extrude Done
weight savings
10/28/25 Meeting Notes 🌈
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