8/2 Unsprung x Data Acq Meeting
Goals: Finalize sensors used and get a space claim of available space spacing for boards and wiring. Discuss unsprung related faults & data display on dash.
Subsystem | Sensor (Total Count) | Ease of Integration/Priority/To Discuss next meeting? | Real time display wanted? (Y/N) |
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Unsprung | Hall Effect per wheel (2) |
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Unsprung | in-line brake pressure sensors (2) |
| Y |
Unsprung | IMU on each upright / tarm and the frame (4) |
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Unsprung | real-time wheel pressure (3) |
| Y |
Unsprung:
Hall effect per wheel (2)
entails one board per upright and one magnet per hub
multiple magnets needed perhaps bc we cant mount the magnet in the axle itself
usage: lets us check the speed of the front two wheels vs the rear for speed. also lets us check for toe, if the speeds are significantly different then we can adjust toe to make them the same speed (ish)
new member project: measuring toe
would make sure our toe is good beforehand and then collect data
confounding variables to consider → differences in tire
more magnets would give more accurate reading is the idea
is the sweet spot 2 or a different number?
will need to figure out a reason for the # of magnets chosen
how to secure magnet to the wheel hub
EV just epoxied to their center lock; they machined slots into their centerlock for the magnets
Electrical: will talk about best # of sensors
Dynamics: will talk best way to mount; either include in our manufacturing plan or epoxy onto hub
Actual Dynamics Boardarchived ← link to current dynamics IMU board with idea of how hall effect sensors would be mounted on wheel hub/unsprung assembly
in-line brake pressure sensors (2)
one pressure sensor per banjo-bolt connection
would be on the calipers on themselves
usage: lets us check for brake failure real-time, also to check pressure within system and tune brake bias
what about knowing pressure loss over length in brake lines thru 2 sensors?
could look into more into it; might be more useful than comparing left to right
originally this was the plan → was integrated into pedal board originally
would let us know if there is a brake line leaking if there is a significant pressure difference
can check in code the brake pressure and display an error; can check pedal displacement vs how much you are actually braking to see if something is wrong
1st purpose for sensor: to see if brake line leaking
though can eyeball this technically and the driver can feel the difference
2nd purpose for sensor: would help determine if we are getting the brake bias we want and adjust from there
Dynamics too look into/double check if our understanding of how to adjust brake bias is correct
2 sensors total: one on one of the front wheel; one on the back wheel
don’t need one on each front wheel b/c if one changes pressure in the front then the other front one will also change
the sensor has to be part of the brake lining itself; will be part of the caliper itself
IMU on each upright / tarm and the frame (4)
usage: imu’s on upright let us see the real bump forces that unsprung experiences whereas one on frame lets us see bump force on frame, can prolly work out like some suspension/shock stuff from differences in forces from wheels to frame
see the way the inner vs outer wheels angle changes when turning to evaluate ackerman
would be a main thing to do evaluate our sus and mostly for next next gen
frame one would be validating sus kinematics
IMU on the frame to help see this; yaw and roll rate; can then adjust sus characteristics to get closer to our goal kinematics
IMU would allow to see acceleration in x,y,z directions
current dynamics board also includes gyroscope so IMU on frame would work
IMU for the car itself
would help to determine what slope/angle the car is on
could be on the bellypan/frame itself
can help us tell what incline we are on and see how we can optimize
know what current max incline the car can get over; would be a next next gen thing to optimize and get over a steeper incline ---> could make a FBD
this IMU can be the same as above described IMU (the one that would help us with roll,yaw, and spring rates)
3 on wheels (2 upright; 1 on trailing arm); 1 on frame/bellypan
this sensor would help us with pose of the car
this could be very useful for knowing where you are at physically → for helping know stuff on the electrical side
IMU on the frame would help us determine forces on the frame itself vs bump force at the wheels
could also help us determine ride/natural frequency of the frame
wheels move independently of the frame hence reason for wanting an additional IMU on the frame
real-time wheel pressure (3) AND temp sensor (3)
screws into valves for rims
usage: lets us check for flats and ensures we are operating within pressures
Would these be wireless? Otherwise, it could get interesting.
HAS to be wireless basically
right now have wireless wheel pressure sensors
need to check the current model selected doesn’t interfere with unsprung assembly
model might not exist but data sheet and in person exist
current TPMS sensor doesn’t have proof of concept yet so this could change
temp sensor helps us find where our contact patch is + could help us determine ideal steering characteristics
could do a temp camera on drive days
multiple temp sensors on wheel would be hard on the electrical side
this can be lower priority sensor for now